I would have to recommend the e-maxx. The savage is a great truck, ive always wanted one, but im beginning to grow sick of nitro.. i have 2 nitros an many more electrics, and my electrics just get so much more usage, because the old lady down the street doenst come out and yell at me.. i dont like to get the old lady mad, she might hit me with a broom..... again [sm=bananahead.gif] Also, i would suggest the T4 (not to go against everybody elses suggestions), if you stick a set of masher 2000s on it, it can tackle some terrain.. If you got the factory team kit, and a mamba max brushless (i had to stick that in there, i am a brushless freak.. and a castle creations freak..) it would rip, and rpm makes parts for it, which is the toughness side of it.. it would be raceable too. Its fairly cheap in comparison to the others.. its just somthing to conisder.