Just to give some input on the fighterbird, let me tell you It is really a total BLAST!!!!! I have just returned from my first combat mission VICTORIOUS!!!! The flying conditions were less than perfect. The wind was gusting sending the birds on a crazy down-wind rocket ride!. It was the first successful combat mission. The previous attemps succumbed to such problems as... forgotten combat modual... too windy conditions... and basic cowardness!!! But today I was in the groove. My friend Jamie and I have found a great site to fly. That is half the battle right there. We were flying in strong wind gusts, so we decided to lay off the combat and just focus on flying in heavy wind. Man what a rush! The thought of the fighterbird not being aerobatic wasn't in my mind! Talk about loops, it seems if there is some wind one can use it to push the fighterbird to do some totally white-nuckling flying! now it's not 3D but being new to rc it is a total blast! plus the durability factor is there as well these little planes are really tuff! I had a few less than perfect landings. And the touch and goes can be tricky in the short grass field, but when you nail one... wow!!! On one attempt I had mine rolling along for 15-20ft before she began to get lift again!!! i could go on and on... but i would really suggest paying the $200cdn for the fun factor that these birds will provide. the set-up is minimal, which means more time flying and less time tinkering. the durability fator is also a huge plus!!!!