RE: Groovy 50 or venus 40?
he wants somthing that is not expensive, so why recommend a venus II when it's gonna be out of his price range.
i have the groovy 50 3a & it's an awsome 50 size pattern plane. built well, & light yet the best is the way it fly's, it really does fly like a larger patternship.
guess it's going to come down to what you like the look of.