thanks grant... it will be a totally new thing for covering and painting for me. ive heard of this dope and silkspan, and seen pictures of it, but do not fully understand what it does. as far as the painting goes, i will need to look up the best type to use when i start... it will still be awhile, maybe the middle of next year before i even think of painting..... BUT IM ON IT!!!!!!!!>........ THANKS AGAIN.