I can do inside and outside rollers with my trainer using only aileron and elevator. Does that make me an expert yet? [sm=tongue_smile.gif][sm=wink_smile.gif]

I'm in the same boat as Sinergy. I can do an outside roller from either direction with most planes. Including my gassers. But, the inside roller gets me all twisted up in a knot most of the time. Haven't practiced them in a while.