well i did it looks like ill be learning with the u can do 60 not that i didin take consideration what 3dsky thought i was takin to an old friend that hasnt flown in a while got married havein a baby... kinda thing any way he had a do that he bought not to long ago and isnt going to have the time to put it togeather thinks he would be a little rusty for it also but i bought it from him at a great deal $100 bucks!! [sm=greedy.gif] so i couldnt pass it up i also wanted to bring up how often is more power your friend when learning to 3d does it keep you out of more trouble than it gets you in to reason why i ask is i dont really want to buy another motor in the 120 range i already have 2 and 1 older enya which of course is still runs and none are on a plane but if it would make thing a lot easier for me then i would look at buying a ys110