Hey TIG... nice to see a fellow gasser in here. If you are going for scale then a TLT seems to be the best choice. Not much in stock form, but once streched out to a 1/10 wb with longer links, pede drive shafts, and transmission are VERY capable crawlers. If price isn't a problem, look at the Hi-Lift, it is extremely scale. Check out some of the pic threads here, especially Jason's rigs. I am building a maxx based craler at the moment which are a little harder to build and take alot of fabrication and time. I am leaning toward a scale competition style crawler which will eventually be tuber once I have the shocks and links figured out. I almost bought a TLT because I love what some have done with the scale, but I have had this maxx sitting around for a year now and it is in need on a transformation. Plus I love to fabricate.... Between this and the Marder I have my hands full.