well I don't want to turn this thread in a who is whos better, let's keep it to what it was intended for. So when you get yours from Xtreme you can use what ever derives from here to complete yours. by all means thats what his forums is intended for. I am happy what I got and I don't care if I made Tams morgage for that month, lol , Well Todds thats who I got it from; so the money was spread out between the the three companies and this will keep them in business. Plus I like the little dude he speeks funny and he makes me laugh at FLJ. So I will be at Florida jets this year with it and you can see it there or maybe in the SKS video they have done a couple of my planes in the past, but if I can get my daughter to take some good video I will post it here, she is still learning to film.