Thanks guys for all your help. Got a few more questions for you if you don't mind. How long does a typical trainer take to build? Lets say you work on it a few hours a day. Also other than flying reasons what would be the difference in building a trainer model and lets say [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJ579&P=0]this plane[/link]. Are the instructions geared different or something? The reason I ask is just because I love that plane! Last question where do you guys order your plans. I have looked around and towerhobbies.com seems to be the best I can find for kit planes. Are there any others?? Thanks so much again, you all have been very helpful!