Originally posted by outssider
Jim Hilley ...
I agree with your post...but.....where are you getting 14/15 lb.
the hangar 9 1/4 cap 232 should come out in the 12's max 
if the plane's weight were 15 lb. with a saito 150/180...it needs to be thrown directly in the trash.....do not pass go ...do not collect 200 dollars.... 
After spending well in excess of $1000.00 on plane, engine, digital servo flight pack, etc, I'm not about to throw my 14lb plane in the trash. You are correct in that it wouldn't be 14lbs if I had a Saito 180 instead of a Moki 180, or a 700mah RX battery instead of a 3500mah RX battery but even if I stripped all of the extra weight I'm still looking at around 12.5-13.0 pounds of airplane with a Saito 180.
I guess I could have been very stingy with my glue and fuel proofing but then I'd be picking up pieces of the airplane after it falls apart in the air.
The gist of my remarks here is for this airplane to achieve dynamic 3D performance you need to build solid and need more umph in your engine than the Saito 180 can provide. Who says that --- I say that and a whole hell of a lot of other 73" Hanger 9 Cap 232 owners.