I've been trying to 3D and do all the really cool aerobatic moves for about 5 yrs. In a nut shell--I suck compared to most of you guys. I never could get the rudder timing down for the cool rolling harriers or the low n slow roll that requires opposite rudder during the time when the belly is pointing towards me.

My friend threw me a pearl on Tuesday night. He just saved me $10,000 worth of crashed airplanes and 2 yrs of suffering.

Top wing Back. Bottom wing Forward.

That mean anything to any of you fellas?