subyman, that was a great response ,very strait forward, I too have a tlt-1 on the way and can't wait to tear it apart , I am a cnc machinist with good fab skills but I still don't know exactly what i will do , your post was great ,Thanks a bunch , some of the other forums are full of sarcastic jerks . there are alot of options so strait answers can be tough but it's nice to see someone try , Gary