Well since this thread is on it's way out, what the heck. Manuals are great for beginners and for a while there after. After you've owned several of the same style engine, manuels don't do much. If you change engine types like going to 4 stroke or gas, then you start the manual all over again. ----- I don't look at it as "convincing" but more like dumb enough to go along with it.

I see you two are in "stealth mode"