I have found the best trainer to buy is the phoenix classic trainer, with a 46ax, currently im able to hover, flat spin, and do full throttle blenders with it, and its still alive, apart from last week when the nose dropped out of a hover and didnt have enough airspeed to pull up before terra firma... only broke part of the firewall so easy repair, but these trainer can take a beating, another member of our club stands the model on its tail, (elevator and rudder) balancing with nose pointed vertical, and takes off verticle into a torque roll, even the best pilots in our club now are buying these to just use as a muck around plane, you would see probably 5-10 each time you go to the field on a weekend now :P