I'm reminded of another crash I witnessed. I met someone at the local flying field that has been very instrumental in helping start the sport. One day while we were all flying, my friend was looking at someones new Magic. The guy with the Magic was nervous about the first flight and wanted Buddy to fly it. Now, Buddy is a very good Pilot, the best I've ever seen. He started the plane, took the guys radio and quickly twitched the control surfaces and began an aggressive take-off. Instead of taking off and climbing steeply, the plane nosed over and did a couple of flops and landed on the gear. At that point, Buddy had a look on his face that was priceless. Believe it or not, the plane wasn't hurt. MrMulligan, we haven't had many decent flying days recently, can you fly often in NJ?