Thats why I said to get the Cessna, it flies just like the Avistar I learned on. There's another idea... A new Avistar is only about $300.00 from Tower for everything, and is ready for flight in about 30 minutes. Semi symetrical wing, and a OS 40 LA engine. The Avistar is the best plane to learn on in my opinion, but the Cessna flies just like it and looks better.