rcdivot how long have you been flying ? if you want to crash all the time good onya i don't .. aerobatics is not always done flat out it takes more pilot skill to do the manouvers at half or quarter speed. I only go full speed when i go vertical. and a65l is right they are economical. out of the years that i have flown i have only seen 2 mid air crashes 1 from a bloke the was not flying the curcit was going against the direct that everyone esle was going and not calling his movement and 1 other which was combat which you normally get head ons because they fly really close to each other trying to cut the other persons ribbon . so if you want to crash that's up to you don't put it on every one else i'm sure that they would like to keep their planes in one peice