Thanks GHWATSON, your the heat, thats exactly what i was looking for. I dont wanna plane thats going to eat me out of house and home in fuel, nor do I care much for the Extra style of aircraft, to me they arent precision acrobatic, but mere fun fly's on steroids. I love the way the old .60's flew. straight as an arrow, and on rails. Thanks much, eyeing that Jeykle!!