Thank's I kind of thought it was a "flat shocky" type model just was not sure, thats awesome news for me! I have been jumping in to thread's like this that may otherwise probably just pass by for some reason I don't know why, your right I would be better of starting a new 1 because people who have already looked at the thread may think it has nothing they want to see in it, guess I will go start a fresh 1. Good looking out da rock.