Hi Bull-RCU - I just wanted to thank you for the PM you sent me earlier on. I do not like to bash anyone, far be it , for I am not perfect in my building and flying. But I agree with you, certain ARFs are not for certain people or certain types of flying. I guess many new builders think that ARFs should take a couple of hours to build and be ready to go. In my experience, I'm lucky to be able to cut off about 1/3rd to 1/2 of the building time from a kit. I will be the first to say that my Zero took about 20-25 hours to get ready (but this also included my painting and set up). Personally, I still love to build kits, but sometimes that ARF is so much better than my skills especially in fiberglass. I can honestly say that my CMP was a very quality kit (with the exception of some of the hardware). The instructions need some work, but then again, the pictures did better than the translation. I know that some others have said great things about other companies ARF's and I'm glad that they were happy with them, but then again I have been disappointed with some ARFs that I've built. To each his own I guess.