Well, I am now the proud owner of a Black Hawk 450 SE. It was everything I expected it to be and more (the transmitter came with a recharger and rechargeable batteries). This is where I purchased mine: http://www.discountrchelicopter.com/...BlackHawk450SE. I posted this link a while back on this thread. Everything was just as advertised. I am noticing some differences with the different ones people have ordered. All are basically the same and appear to be RTF. I have noticed a difference in the size of the battery (mine is a 2200mahr) and the heading lock gyro (mine is the HobbyPro). One retailer is obviously selling them with a Futaba radio, and you can't go wrong there. Mine came with a JFT602, which I know nothing about. It has several switches on it I am still scratching my head over. The documentation that comes with the helicopter is sparse but what is there is quite good. The English is of high quality and understandable and appears not to be done by Chinese second grader learning english. All this came for a surprising $10.99 World Express Mail Shipping. I have seen some internet dealers burn customers up on shipping; these guys don't. They seem to offer a solid product at a good price. You can contact the seller at "[email protected]". His name is Chris and he will get back to you within 24 hours, normally. Overall, I am thoroughly pleased with my upgraded heli. One upgrade that was not in the package that I went ahead and ordered was 315 MM CF main rotor blades. Looking back now, I probably should have order the tail rotor CF blades too. Now if there was just a way to figure out what the extra knobs and switches do on the transmitter without crashing the helicopter, I would be good to go as they say. All of this cme over the internet for about half the price of a similarly configured T-Rex 450SE, and on almost all of those, you still had to add a battery, receiver, transmitter and servos (maybe not all of those parts but some of those). The HeliPro Black Hawk 450SE is the only one I have found that is truly RTF. Maybe if Chris doesn't have a manual, he could WRITE one for guys who need to be clued in on how some of these thing operate. I don't want to trash my 450 on it's first flight!!