I guess I disagree. I have read all the post and I don't see many having "bad attitudes toward ARF assemblers." Arf's have there place in this hobby/sport but not for me. Try kit or scratch building and there's no comparison. 99% of the fun will always be the adventure of building. Has nothing to do with quality. I've said it before: If all the kits, plans and balsa wood suddenly disappeared I would take up golf.