I enjoy building kits and ARF's both... I don't understand though why some builders are always whineing about and knocking ARF"S ... Maybe a good laxitive would help them Seems like they feel so inferior to the ARF people they try to drag them down to there level I am sure there are people at there fields that would show them how to assemble and ARF... Really not that much different then ASSEMBLING a bunch of precut parts together