I think you'll find that you ARE fighting control (actually it tries to control when you are not). I found that the gain had to be set quite low or the heli would try to do unnatural things. My guess is you will like it better without except in wind. But then, in a wind with the gyro it does things when you aren't, so you don't get the full feel of control anyway. However, it does not bounce around as much. I flew around a local park quite a bit in trying the VMBGs and like I said, didn't like the added complexity. I probably won't do Bham (I am kind of in the mode of just flyin around with the Fury getting lower and slower in the maneuvers & playing with the Agusta), but I will be the CJ at the Sanford deal Peter & Jerry are doing. I'll be looking for a couple more judges to help with the 3 or so rounds of 518. I will also do Dalton (I like the time of year), but don't know now if I'll compete or judge again.