Arch, thanks for the info, will try this. I am still curious though if the "60 degree bank" method is valid or not.

Vince: basicly everything I could move, is already moved backwards. Before doing more drastic things, I decided first to use lead to find the correct dynamic CG. Once that is accomplished I want to take of the lead and move the battery to the final correct location. You are right, I normally never use any lead as well.