personally if its just for bashing i would get the ofna Ultra MBX R2 kit from tower (part #LXAXV2) and buy a force .32 (3+ HP) the kit is only 179.99 and the motor is 149.99 and as far as bashing is concerned that would do quite nicely. Its a little bit older than the hypers, but with it being a basher you need parts availability and the Ultra series is prob the easiest ofna to find parts for. I have an Ultra LX1 with a force .28 and my friend has an Ultra MBX Comp with a force .32. His force .32 is a beast of a motor, especially with the optional 2-speed he has. Very fun buggies to bash around with. haven't had any problems with either of them so far and we have both run a little over 2 gallons a piece through them. of course whatever you get if its an OFNA you should end up being pretty happy.