I'm gonna have to build a better ramp for my Havoc. That thing definetly gets distance. I keep blowing out shocks, LOL. I have good springs and everything the screws at the ends of the shafts keep coming loose oh well, I'm glad I Bought extrras. Gonna build a quarter pipe ramp next week hopefully. Still waiting on my friend for a digi camcorder.(UNRELIABLE) I bashed my havoc in the middle of my driveway yesturday OPPS. Landed on the nose and rolled about 30 to 50 feet. I didn't think the thing would stop.