also check out http://www.heli-fever.com/index.php?cPath=7 for motors
main motors for $6.25 and tail motors for $4.38

I bought a bunch of them, and all I've done is burned them in. They look basically the same though. The only diff I can see is the esky pinions are a bit thicker down at the root of the spline, shouldn't make much difference though. I can post pics of the difference if someone wants it.

I agree with everyone else, I like the humor of this forum and just the good time everyone has, and all the nutty comments that are made =)