RE: whats the ARF that started it all ????
well yes and no , with my original question , many ARFs -second generation -late 90ties were really the transition period that led upto the 2004 releases thru all composite planes of 2007 .
As far as ARf yes that is really subject to your own definition , not from the "look what i have to fix standpoint " but more from how fast you can actually fly it