Garland, what type of plane is a Phoenix Extra? The reason I ask is because the only plane I've ever built that specified that much right thrust was a Goldberg Ultimate Bipe. The plane tracked beautifully and handled during takeoff real nice, too. I scratch built a twin engine bipe that had the engines mounted on the low wing. Those engines needed lots of down thrust or else the plane would have needed full down elevator to just fly level. It is interesting how even the most bizarre design layouts can be made to fly well by pointing the engine in the right direction.