Darticus, listen to all of the advice here and draw your own conclusions. I had an EP Concept and never did get a good hover. What the EP did do was cost me a lot in repairs. In fairness to Kyosho the EP Concept was never advertised as a beginner heli and I'm definately a beginner. Mods I did to my CP Pro are to add flybar weights, move the servo linkages in one hole to reduce the hyper active cyclic and make sure the swash is adjusted to a perfect level, ie 90 deg. from the main shaft all the way around. Then I take some deep breaths throttle up lifting off to about waist high and do my best to hover. After a while I set it down and breath a big sigh of relief, let my pulse drop, dry the palms and try it again. What I have discovered is that flying over a lawn is a little more forgiving if you land a little hard, like I did when I came in tail first and had the vertical tail support pierce the ground like a lawn jart. Man I love this thing. Yes Kyle rocks and I can't believe what he can do at 11 years old. If I can hover well and fly around a bit even nose in, I'll be happy. At least I've mastered my CX2 a real confidence booster.

I think most of the problems I was experiencing with my EP was the ground effect mentioned in this thread. I was too afraid to get the EP up and out of the ground effect. When I did I would always land with a boom strike, bent tail boom smashed blades and a trip to my LHS. ; )

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