Yeh, that was in reply, you are right, problem is, for £270 i will have a fully working RC (the Hyper 7) that i could upgrade slowly(if it all)

whereas with the Mugen or the Xray, I can get either for £250

but then I need Engine: £100, Radio: £50, Servos: £50?, Receiver: £20, Misc: £40-£60

That comes to atleast around £500. I don't know if i can judtify that at all for something i havn't tried and don't know if it will get dropped the next month like all my other stuff.

I think if i absolutely push it, i can only just about make the £300 mark. What do you think i could do with that?