Hate to say it, but the elevator itself is binding. I disconnected as you said bruce and moved it by hand. The pushrod itself is not obstructed but I notice with the down elevator there is some tight resistance in the elevator itself, with some kind of sticky noise like the sound of a piece of tape being pulled off covering (no, there isn't any covering coming loose, it only makes that noise) and it is coming from the hinge line. So let me be the first with the bad news [:@], I will have to take the elevator off yet again and rehinge [sm=cry_smile.gif] But as I stated earlier, with me having to remove the elevator because of a warp, I have no place to reslot for CA hinges. Ideas [sm=confused.gif][sm=confused.gif]