OK, I'm ready for that trick. I seem to be doing very well now with tail-in flying and have found that your recommendation about concentrating on rotor movement rather than body movement quite helpful. But the nose-in flying is still very difficult for me. I know that part of the problem is that I can only practice in the 8' x 8' area which allows very little recovery time for mistakes. While I can now do tail-in flying in the room until the battery runs out, I can't fly nose-in more than a few seconds. Also, after a lot of nose-in practicing I find it degrades my tail-in flying ability for a while. Maybe that is an indication that I'm still flying more by body movement than rotor movement.

I have to ask, why nose-in first? I thought everyone normally starts tail-in. Did you do this intentionally as a way to avoid bad habits?

Mike