Wow, I was reading the other thread mentioned up at the top of the first page from when the Kid said he was going to post a video. Which I got tired of reading after page 8. So did the video ever come. I tell ya I was out today with my 4wd Nitro touring car and drifting is hard on rubber tires. I slapped on an old pair of tires I had and drove the car around powersliding untill the tires were completely bald. Which in reverse effect made the compound softer which I didn't think of. But I've got some sweet corners in my parking lot where I live to drift around. I got about 15 successful drifts in a about a 10ft arch around the curbs after 2 tanks of fuel. I need to re-tune my engine to the hotter weather because it sounded like it wanted to bog out in the low end (it got up to 90 again today). But IT's HARD!!!!!!!! I'm going to pick up a set of the PVC ring drift tires to see how they work I can imagine it's a lot easier with the plastic rings than Rubber. BTW I just bought the new NISSAN 350Z GT NISMO body.. THE THING IS SWEEEEEEEEEEEET.