Originally posted by Flug
Right.
So whats the mind set that makes the clubs go AMA in the first place? If club officers had it the other way around and opted to insure their fields with regular insurance, wouldn't this open it up to both sides. Although the AMA would refuse us on their fields, we'd be nice and probably allow anyone on ours. Everyone's covered...shows are covered..everyones happy.
AMA sanctioning is their way of throwing the net on our clubs Unless there is a contstant donation from the AMA in terms of goods and services, whats the big deal with local clubs needing sanctioning. Insurance??
Is this a situation in which club officers think of the AMA Sanctioning as legitimizing their clubs??????It sure seems like it. You know why??? Because nobody has yet to describe the REAL benefits of it. Only the big shows get the real benefits. The rest don't. They get banners and advertisements to further promote the AMA. Maybe a guest...if they're close enough.
So, what if you went to the local store and picked up RCM or another pub in the early part of November and read that there was a totally legit company with insurance for clubs and individuals. What if they had stickers and cards for ID purposes. What if their coverage was even better than the AMA? (*AMA makes you use your insurance first**).
The AMA could have an entry fee at any of their events. It could very easily pay for insurance for the day. They could make this happen easily and affordably. Why don't they do it?
You see, at every turn they got us by the balls. The big picture is nice but when you think about how it all works for them, you begin to see through it all. Many of you see it. Some still can't figure it out.
Every aspect of the AMA is based on keeping those who are involved in big events happy at the expense of those who aren't. They control our clubs, making the officers believe their operations are more legit. They prevent participation of ALL people...limiting it to only those who pay them. They smooth talk us into believing they are a benefit and then turn around and have us pay for their advertising. They have us waiving their flags and displaying their logo across the country. Seriously, what a joke!
I don't care what people voice publicly. I'd sure hope that some of you get involved...or at least write the AMA. Ask them to show some heart. I'd change my thinking tomorrow if they showed some REAL sportsmanship and helped the hobby the way they should.
Incidently...I corrected the email address above. It is a Yahoo address. Not Hotmail.
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nascarjoe,
There are many commercial pilots and instructors out there. You may want to get with AIG or USAA. In any case you will be directed to a sub contracted company for insurance specific to your needs...and location.
What's the definition of an Academy?
Well Flug, you are a man of your word. Your reserved the right to spread incorrect and misinformation and you are continuing to do so.
The AMA owns one field
The AMA charters clubs
Chartered clubs and/or landlords decide what insurance is acceptable. The AMA does not make any decision on what insurance can be used.
Chartered clubs can not and do not sanction events with the AMA. Events are Sanctioned by a CD with the AMA. A sanction may or may not be affiliated with a club. A sanction may or may not be flown at a chartered club field.
The AMA has no problem with anyone having insurance. AMA insurance is secondary. If you have homeowners or UMA, that is fine with them. The homeowners or UMA will be primary. If you have no other insurance, then the AMA insurance becomes primary. The AMA would be happy to recognize your UMA insurance. On the other hand, the chartered club and/or landlord may require AMA membership as well. The club and/or landlord makes that decision, not the AMA.
No insurance is mentioned in a sanctioned event. AMA membership is required. If you want to have UMA, the CD will have no problem with that as long as you are an AMA member.
There is no need to charge extra for insurance at an AMA sanctioned event, but, if you insist, they might try to please you.
Most AMA sanctioned events are not "rule book" events.
There does not seem to be anything coherent in the rest of your babbling to respond to.
If you are interested in the relationship between chartered clubs and the AMA, read the 2003 club recharter package on the AMA site carefully, or..... do as you are doing and keep babbling garbage.
JR