He seemed pretty impressed, and said that I have a " weapon " now for sportsman. He did mention that the wind can give an Excelleron fits though. Also, he placed second I believe in Advanced at a contest last year with a borrowed one. Long story. I need to tone down the roll rate a bit though, which I'll take care of before heading out to the field tommorrow. Don't know if he's following this thread but if you PM him he might chime in. Mike's pretty busy with the Black Magic VF3 right now. I got a close look at it yesterday too. Awesome somehow seems inadequate.