I have found that the ailevons preclude doing flat spins on my Pizazz because the full UP elevator is reduced when opposite aileron is entered so it's really no good for that. Also they won't really stop a torque roll and hold it steady as a hover but you can do a torque roll to the right for a bit. It's fighting engine torque so it's not as steady a TR as the left TR but it does make you blink when you do it.