well if you have the dough don't hesitate to get the 85 i haven't done any pull outs form hover yet, only flown 2 flights. mine came out at 24 lbs even. It is such a rad airplane. I didn't have to trim at all. I have hovered it up high briefly and from where i was on the stick it seemed like there should be enough left over to get out ok... I don't have rpms for the engine, sorry. The weather here in omaha sucks i am dying to get out.