Yeah, I 1st used the 12x4 two days ago and today I tried the 12.25 .............but since I'm not a 3d'er and didn't have the calliones to hover yet, I can't tell the difference.......Rome wasn't built in 3 days so let me get back to you on that one......... either way the plane is a friggin' rocket at full throttle.....even at 1/2 throtttle I'm looking for the toilet paper.........with my paranoid dumb thumbs .........I'll keep you posted.........

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