Ok, I've reduced the throws to around 7/16. We will see... I have also programmed in a bunch of stuff and a systematic schedule to try everything. Expo.30%. Spoilerons and flaperons, both very conservetive. It's nice to have a bunch of free switches! Also, a buddy of mine suggested that I seal the hinges which I have. Da Rock, good call on the geistware's online. My CG was just shy of a half inch to far back.... Might have a lot to do with it. I'm still pretty new to RC planes... Been flying helicopters for awhile and control lines on and off for twenty years. It's a litte different.... We let you know if I got it dialed in. Thanks