well I thought I was ready to buy until you guys threw all that information out there... much appreciated though....

I am working on a budjet... right now I am just trying to get the best I can with least spent, that will be worth it..

I already plan to get a spektrum in the future but not anytime soon so i need something either ready to fly or a package that will come out just as cheap as the rtf if I buy seperate....

I will do some more research on these

I wont need field equipment, I already have things such as glow plug ignighters, fuel, I can make a chicken stick, and I use a large syrringe for filling tanks.