mr mulligan, thanks for the info. yes, i realizxed those prices were way high, i dont know where i got that from. i didnt know you can replace the canned in runner with an outrunner.... a guy at the field said you could actually replace it with an outrunner and the actual motor would go behind the firewall?? i didnt know that was possible in this plane cause the tiny space in the nose and terrible mounting conditions on the firewall...

i was thinking of getting the axi 2820/10 and jeti advanced esc or the castle phx esc, 30 amp. 30 amp would be ok right? then what lipo woiuld be best without breaking the bank? i am going to need a charger and balancer too cause i have neither. i also am not clear on what the wire winds do, or rather how they affect my purchase, i figure this plane i would want lower wire winds for faster speed and smaller prop on this plane?

thanks again.