I agree about the Showtime. Mine was a great flying airplane with a YS 110. Now I have that same engine mounted in a Venus II. For pattern style flying, the Venus is much better than the Showtime IMHO...The Showtime control surface's are huge to make it 3D capable while the Venus II is strictly a pattern plane and it has no coupling issues either. If you want to fly pattern, I would go with the Venus....RS