That's true, it takes longer to meet people, but you usually like the ones you meet better I have, however, noticed some problems with this situation. Safety. Sometimes I go to this one place where some of the flyers aren't AMA members and haven't given safety much thought. There's a lot of flyng over each other's heads, crashing right next to parked cars, stuff that could be minimized at a club field, simply because those in the know about safety would have some control. Obviously, though, that can and has been taken to the extreme in most cases. So I still tend to enjoy flying with AMA guys. Most of my friends compete, too. We just tend to fly often in impromptu locations. My perspective is changing, developing on this week by week, mostly because I've run into a group of guys who are going to do what they want no matter what. The feeling I get from them is kind of snotty, too. Not like they just want to have fun and do without all the club BS, but kind of a we don't need anybody arrogance. So I don't plan to go there anymore. I brought this up not to start a war, but just to bring balance to the discussion. I still think folks should belong to and support the AMA, regardless of where they fly. Anyway......