well, when i changed the direction, i wasnt trying to change it to this, i was trying to compare small engines with electrics as a whole, not to be debating it though. and i admit i did start debating also but i hate myself for doing that cause it just gets to be silly. but i think there shouldnt be any arguement within pilots as a whole when there are people trying to get rid of the hobby as a whole. and just to add a little something about the hunting thing, more people die due to a physicial a year than to a gun shot. the real problem isnt which source of power is prefered, the real problem is the people outside the hobby who b**ch about everything. its going on with all the houses being built farther into the country, everything including agriculture, hunting, planes, even hikers are being complained about. so seriously, lets just forget the whole debate, and worry on the more important subject, like people trying to get rid of us.