new-heli-pilot::Loops an Intelmons are no prob, roll's on the upswing lasy like , Inverted at 20=30% down an plow'in ( fun stuff ) you can take her as far as you want an when you done get any GWS of other ARF Parkflyer and your slow-Stick stuff will go right in your new plane, I put the stuff off a Slow-Stick in a 5.00$ foam glider( It's my favorite plane!!) your bub, scoooper