thanks john.I took the info ustick gave me and I eventually got the flaps and ailerons to prperly mix.but as ustick pointed out my left aileron had a very slight lag.my comment about futaba is similar.and I thought about using the glider2 parameter and will try it today.I love the stick and feel its better than my old jensen ugly sticks which I flew and flew.I planned to use all the features of stick and thought my 9C was the best.but now I am not so sure though I have always supported futaba.If I cant get the same results in 25 minutes as you lol I may just rip out the quad flaps and re install the conventional ones and just fly and enjoy.my friends have theirs set up that way and they work beautifully I just thought I would be different.futaba does irk mr sometimes and have wondered like you why have acro when butterfly alias crow is already in glider2.ugh!oh well no since belaboring it its a goregous day and I plan to grab several planes and fly with my buddies and just have fun. thanks again for sharing nice to know it wasnt just me.