Ok well about the LT being so expensive why. And belive me I know the this stuff is not cheap becaus i've been in to rc for about 10 years of my 12 year life. I know alot about it. I was just wondering why at Tower the LT is like $125 for the kit and alot of other strainers and intermediat planes are cheaper. Doesn't make sence to me. Also The MidStar is pretty nice looking but I think I would like the 4Star 40 but the thing is my dad already has one that his dad biult with him when he was like my age. And I want a kit to start building a plane that is basicaly a step up from what im at now ustil im done and by the tome im done I will hopefully be able to fly my dads Cub. Lets hope. But my dad isnt shore if he'll let me build a plane we already have. THX for all the help so far. Keep it coming.