okay sounds good and thanks for the advice. I will have to wait until I get home to figure it out. I am using a Futaba S3305 high torque MG servo. I have another S3305 so I will switch it out and see if the servo was the problem. I am just using the stock wires I do not know if they are coated. I have the wires going through the servo arm and being crimped by aluminum tubes and on the rudder end I have a threaded connecter to adjust wire tension. I will stay posted on here and thanks everyone.